G-Spot: Is making Golden Axe: Beast Rider a bad idea?
Posted by Graham. Filed under G, Microsoft Xbox 360, Multi-platform, News, Nintendo Wii, Retro, Sony PlayStation 2. Tagged with G-Spot, Golden Axe, Master System, MegaDrive, Saturn, XBLA.

There comes a time in every Sega Nerd’s life when you have to question what Sega is doing with their classic franchises. This could be something as basic as “Why haven’t they made a new game of X, Y or Z.” [X, Y and Z of course being Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia and Panzer Dragoon Saga ;o) ]
Or it could be the question - “Is releasing a new game of *blank* actually a good idea, or will it ruin the franchise?” Â
It happened with NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, some people ended up loving the game and others berate it for not being similar enough to or as good as the original.
In this case, game *Blank* is Golden Axe: Beast Rider.
There has been a bit of rift amongst gamers and Sega Nerds with the upcoming Golden Axe game. It all first came about, when it was announced that the game would only feature Tyris Flare as a playable character, and none of the other main characters which made the series famous.
But I think people should sit down and have a look back at just what the Golden Axe series actually entails.
When people look back upon the glory days of Golden Axe, what do they think of? Normally it would be a fun filled side scrolling beat ‘em up, with some fun co-operative play, and the choice of playing as a badass dwarf with a huge axe, a sexy lady wearing a bikini or a man with large muscles wearing nought but a pair of very tight Speedos.
Naturally most players would have opted for the dwarf and the hot semi-naked lady. But you did get some ‘weirdos’ who felt the need to strut around in swimming trunks every now and then.
Anyway, that’s what people remember - a fun two player fighting game.
So when Sega/Secret Level told us that they were taking out the fun co-op mode in the new Golden Axe, it means that the game is going to be rubbish, and is going against the whole concept of what a Golden Axe game is. Right?
Well technically no.
The fact of the matter is that the Golden Axe franchise is not filled with fun co-op based games at all. Just two are, and I reckon the majority of gamers will have only played one of them - as the other is Arcade only.
The “good” games:
Golden Axe
Golden Axe was originally on the Arcade and a little later on the Megadrive, it was then ported onto about a million other consoles, (and more recently on the Virtual Console and XBLA) -
It is without a doubt the most famous Golden Axe game in the series, and the one that everyone relates the “Golden Axe” name to.
This is the game that conjures up memories of playing with a friend, beating up those damn midget thief gnomes, and fighting over who gets to ride the pretty red dragon, or hopping on the weird bird-lizard thing (that swipes it’s tail).
Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder
The other fun game is Arcade only, Revenge of Death Adder, which I must admit I have not played myself.Â
But everyone who has claims it’s the best game in the series. And reading more about it - it does sound awesome, with branching paths, better visuals and sound.
The other games in the franchise:
[Update: Some people seem to be stuck on their personal opinions of the following titles. I'm not stating that the next few titles are necessarily bad games.
Some people like them, others don't - but on the whole the next games listed are the least talked about/remembered among gamers - generally receiving mixed opinions in reviews and also from standard gamers.]
Golden Axe II
Golden Axe II, on the Megadrive (and now Virtual Console), was quite the anticipated sequel, featuring the original cast, and same gameplay.
However, the game turned out to be pretty lacklustre. The game had inferior visuals and easier gameplay than the original game. Some said it was too similar to the first title, and not enough difference.
But there are some gamers out there who do believe this to be one of the better Golden Axe games, sometimes being held in a higher regard than the original Megadrive title. On the whole it receives mixed opinions from professional reviewers and gamers.
Golden Axe III
Golden Axe III, for the Megadrive (also now on Virtual Console) featured a whole cast of new characters to play as. Gilius was the only original character to feature in the game, but was not playable.
Though GA III featured some new moves and animations, the graphics were not much better (some would say worse) and somehow the gameplay was just not as good as the other two titles.
Then there are three other games, in the franchise, which go even further from the path which the first Golden Axe made.
Golden Axe: The Duel
Golden Axe: The Duel, on the Saturn, is a 2D fighting game. It was a mix of Street Fighter and Golden Axe essentially. Basically a one on one fight, but with a whole host of characters from the Golden Axe universe.Â
But with the game being set a long time after the original Golden Axe, none of the original main characters make an appearance, but some ancestors do, with very similar names, (Gilius Rockhead & Milan Flare).
The original Golden Axe on the Megadrive - not Arcade - (and I believe GA II) featured a “Duel Mode”, which is what GA: The Duel was based off. However in Duel Mode players could move up and down the screen, like in the single player, which you could not do in Golden Axe: The Duel.
It was a nice enough idea, but would have only really been acceptable as an extra to one of the main games, and not a stand alone game. It did not offer the same high quality gameplay that the more popular 2D fighters had to offer, nor did have the same lasting appeal.
Golden Axe Warrior
Then there is also Golden Axe Warrior, on the Master System. It is a single player title, but did feature the main characters from the original Golden Axe (but none playable).
While some people (mainly Sega fans) would deem this game as being quite playable, it was essentially a Zelda style adventure game rip-off. If you look at screenshots, you would probably think it was a Zelda game, as the locations look very similar, and the main character looks quite a bit like Link (holding his sword the same way)… but dressed in blue.

~Yes this is Golden Axe Warrior, not Zelda~
As a result it never got much praise, and I’d say that a lot of people don’t even know of its existence. To be honest I completely forgot about this game - but I just found it in my Master System collection and it all came flooding back to me.
Ax Battler: A Legend of Golden Axe
The last game is Ax Battler:Â A Legend of Golden Axe, on the Game Gear.Â
This game followed Ax Battler, the dude with the blue Speedos, and it was a RPG/Adventure title. Players explored an open map, looking for towns and various locations where they might need to go, a little bit like a Zelda game.
But unlike a Zelda game, Ax Battler had random (and damn annoying) battles. Walking around the map you would suddenly encounter an enemy, and be warped into battle. The battle was real time, and the gameplay turned into a 2D fighting game. Unlike GA: The Duel, these battles were on a single plain.
You fought one enemy at a time, and each baddie had a few set moves. Chances are you would be defeated on your first few encounters, but once you learned each enemies signature moves, it became easier.
The other interesting feature to the game was that when players entered temples/dungeons/caves, the game would turn into a side scrolling platform title. In this instance enemies would act like any other from a platform game, walking back and forth, attacking when you were near.
While it had some pretty fun elements to it, and was quite playable, it was a pretty damn hard game. Also it was clear that the mish-mash of genres involved in the game did not work very well, and as a RPG it just did not stand out against other real RPG/Adventure titles at the time.
Back to Beast Rider:Â
So taking a look now at the new Golden Axe: Beast Rider, what do we have?
Whilst the game may have been made with a new 3D twist, it still focuses on pure hack ‘n slash combat and beast riding, both features which many remember the franchise for.
It may not be a co-operative game, but statistically the franchise is not solely made up of co-op titles. Nor is it fact that the co-op games make the series good. Only one of console titles, which had co-op, was any good.
But still, will the fact that this game only has one playable character ruin the game?Â
Well as I said before, Ax Battler and Warrior also only allow players to play as one character. Sure they were not the best games ever, but single player Golden Axe games have been done before and no one was this outraged by the concept back then - and that was when Golden Axe was a contemporary title, in the public eye.
Won’t a new side scrolling game, with better graphics, be a safer option?Â
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If anyone can remember, Golden Axe was remade on the PS2 with the Sega Ages title (later appeared on the Sega Classics Collection in the west) - it was still a side scrolling title, but the game was made with 3D polygons, and while it was meant to be a remake, the levels actually played out a little differently to the original title. It was almost like playing a new game.
And you know what? It was crap.
The gameplay felt dated, and it just wasn’t the same experience as the Megadrive titles. Not to mention the the graphics (even for a PS2 title) were just horrible.
What am I saying?Â
There have really only been two out of the seven different Golden Axe titles which the majority of gamers will actually consider to be any good, and most people will have only played one of them. Even trying to update the original game, with new visuals and effects, wasn’t that successful.
I don’t see why so many people are upset by the fact that Beast Rider is trying something new, when the franchise, (as it is), really is not actually that good!
But what is everyone expecting from Beast Rider? Personally I’m expecting a mindless hack ‘n slash title, with lots of killing and violence, a bit like Viking: Battle for Asgard.Â
Why am I expecting that? Because the original Golden Axe was like that!
Think back, Golden Axe wasn’t actually a master piece of story writing, nor was the combat system actually that amazing. Granted the console/arcade limitations might not have helped - but ultimately gamers were just tapping the attack button for about 1 hour, until the game ended.Â
Not to forget the times my friends and I, were also laughing at how random it was that no one (in the game) had realised that Turtle Village was on the back of a giant turtle, and didn’t notice that the turtle was moving while they were on it. That is possibly one of the most ridiculous moments in a game’s story ever - but I guess that was part of the charm of the game.
Sure it is a pain that Beast Rider does not have the two player co-operative mode. I know that I would have certainly liked that to be in the game. But too many people look at the Golden Axe series through rose-tinted glasses.
So I think that we should give Sega/Secret Level chance, and at least wait for the game to hit store shelves before trashing it. It could turn out to be quite a fun title.
Besides everyone knows that Streets of Rage is a hell of a lot better than Golden Axe ;o)
[Images from Moby Games]
Golden Axe was originally on the Arcade and a little later on the Megadrive, it was then ported onto about a million other consoles, (and more recently on the Virtual Console and XBLA) -
Golden Axe II, on the Megadrive (and now Virtual Console), was quite the anticipated sequel, featuring the original cast, and same gameplay.



Comments on this article
There have been 40 responses to this article.
I agree. I’m keeping an open mind until I play it. I used to have the SMS version of Golden Axe, which you didn’t mention. It didn’t allow co-op, and you had to be Ax Battler.
emmett The Crab
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 10:38 am.
Good article! I really look forward for Beast Rider and expect it to be a fun title.
Ali
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 10:57 am.
Yeah - I was sort of bundling the SMS version in with the original Megadrive and Arcade, as it was meant to be a port.
I forgot it had some pretty big differences (and was shit).
Graham
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 10:57 am.
I’ve never actually met anyone who has played any other golden axe besides the not so great genesis port.
ratix240sx
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 10:58 am.
I am a huge fan of SEGA and the Golden Axe games. I am quite worried about SEGA’s new direction (or perceived lack thereof). But this article is really well written and i’m now anticipating the release of Beast Rider.
Also, i agree, Revenge of Death Adder was an amazing game!
zoopkid
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 11:00 am.
Revenge of Death Adder was a wonderful game! It cannot be stressed enough!
I hope that Beast Rider will be a fun ride to play. That’s what Golden Axe is about btw.
segamon
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 11:52 am.
Strange, I remember hearing good things about the Genesis Golden Axe 2 and Ax Battler.
nuckles87
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 11:53 am.
@Knuckles.
Ax Battler wasn’t a terrible game by any means. but it wasn’t that good either. Tbh - I quite like the game, it has a little place in my heart, but I still wouldn’t say its a classic.
And it is certainly not as memorable as the original Golden Axe game. I bet a lot of gamers won’t have heard of it.
Re. Golden Axe 2 - I guess there are some people who might enjoy it.
But I remember reading some not-so-great reviews back in the day, and my personal experience of the game is not very good.
It really wasn’t that much fun at all.
Graham
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 12:11 pm.
The two good games had co-op. So that means Best Riders might be in the ‘other’ category.
:)
George
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 12:17 pm.
Gayest article yet.
SEGA should not send you a review copy.
Kogen
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 1:46 pm.
lol I like Golden Axe The Duel!! and you don’t move to the foreground in this game… it’s just in plain 2D and it had all Golden Axe coolness plus i like 2D fighting games, I don’t see anything wrong with it.
I will judge Beast Rider when I play it, but I don’t see anything wrong with it at the moment (no multy? bleh, ninja gaiden: best action game ever, OH NOES!! where is Hayate for the multy???)
landman
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pm.
Golden Axe 2 > Golden Axe
ribbitking17
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 5:49 pm.
I am open to the idea but the game looks like it can be a little more polished. The flow of action and animation looks like it could use some work, and the beast riding parts are not breathing to well imo. This is a such a great IP and with beast riding as a trademark, it looks like they are not exploiting that in NEW innovative ways, it just looks like hack n slash. We could use a tad bit more these days.
BitMaster
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 6:43 pm.
Ah, thank you Kogen.
Everyone should really stop being so negative about this game and WAIT TO PLAY IT FIRST. I’ve been very happy with all of Sega’s recent games (except for the awful Condemned 2: crap story, crap gameplay), and I look forward to this one. Just stop whining about it being single player only and look at the positive things.
Gamerschoice
Posted September 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm.
@Gamerschoice.
I don’t know if you were being sarcastic or something (apologies if you are, hard to tell on the net).
But did you actually read the article?
You seem to praise Kogen, because he said it was a bad article.
When the article is actually saying just what you have!
That people should hold off from judging the game before it is released, and that the Golden Axe franchise is not made up of classic 2 player titles, but rather a mix of different genres some of them being 1 player only.
Again sorry if you were being sardonic, but it sounds to me like you read the first few paragraphs, jumped to the wrong conclusion and thought that the article was bashing Golden Axe Beast Rider, when it wasn’t.
RohanBlack
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 1:53 am.
@Landman.
-Whoops, yeah you are correct it was only a simple 2D fighter. It’s been a long time since I played it, and I got a little confused with the Duel Mode on the original game, which did allow moving up and down the screen.
-I’ve updated the article to say that. Cheers for pointing that out.
-And yeah, some people will like different games within the franchise that others won’t. You like The Duel, which is fair enough.
But you have to admit that out of all the fighters in the world GA: The Duel is hardly recognised as being a brilliant classic.
And part of the point the article is making is that not all Golden Axe games were 2 player hack ‘n slash titles.
Yet the majority of gamers will relate the Golden Axe name to the original game and think that Beast Rider is breaking a trend - when it isn’t.
Graham
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 2:03 am.
Of course The Duel hasn’t made history in the genre, only games the caliber of Guilty Gear could fight with Capcom and SNK’s supremacy ^^ the game is still decent thou, and if you like to spam hadokens and soryukens with some combos, and you like Golden Axe characters, you will enjoy it.
Please Sega, Revenge of Death Adder and The Duel in XBLA NOW!!! lol
landman
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 2:30 am.
Golden Axe 2 was way better than the first one.
City Hunter
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:02 am.
I think the gaming world is torn on the Golden Axe 2 thing.
I know some people who love the game and think it’s the best out of the console games.
But I personally disliked it a lot. It was ok, but a major let down imo.
The graphics clearly weren’t as good as the original, and it felt a bit mundane.
I also remember some reviews giving Golden Axe 2 a lot of praise, and then other game mags trashing it for being too samey and not as much fun as the original.
It feels like a 50/50 split.
RohanBlack
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:12 am.
Ok I have actually updated the article a bit.
Some people seem to be focusing too much on their personal opinions of each title. Which I guess is fair enough.
But games like Golden Axe II and The Duel - received very mixed opinions in reviews. I know some people like them, but they are not generally considered to be the best in the franchise.
Just to point out, I actually like Ax Battler and Warrior - but the point is that they are not well remembered or highly regarded.
Graham
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:38 am.
Perfect article with the perfect timing. I was beginning to think that no one could admit that the Golden Axe series was the shit, at least not as good as many of us remember it.
Kudos to Sega for this new game that’s coming out!
crackdude
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:51 am.
I had a MasterSystem back in the day (I think only a couple of people at school had NES’s). And I played through every single screen/tile/dungeon/island in Golden Axe Warrior. Played it loads of times but only completed it once. I think it took me and my little brother nearly a year to complete it; when you’re 10 that’s a big portion of your life. For me it was one of the best games I’ve played. The world was huge, the quest was massive and I’m sat here at work 16 years later with the theme music in my head note for note after seeing that screen shot. Hands down, beats the original Zelda in every way in my opinion. Anyone who hasn’t played it, get yourselves a copy.
Pete
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:57 am.
I was just saying the article sucks because it is full of errors. Just take it down, it makes you look stupid.
Kogen
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 4:05 am.
“Perfect article with the perfect timing. I was beginning to think that no one could admit that the Golden Axe series was the shit, at least not as good as many of us remember it.
Kudos to Sega for this new game that’s coming out!”
I kwew, all this to say “don’t worry if Beast Rider will suck, Golden Axe always sucked”.
City Hunter
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 5:03 am.
Golden Axe = not that great isnt that right Kogen.
But that doesnt mean Sega have to shit on it some more, Beast Riders is fucking shovelware.
Ryan
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 6:33 am.
Considering you cannot understand how to make a basic sentence, you would likely not know how to play it.
There are still lots of errors in what he wrote. If someone does not know much about the franchise, they should not do an article about it.
Kogen
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 11:04 am.
golden ax sucks !!! bring on streets of rage
dredragoon
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 12:11 pm.
“I kwew, all this to say “don’t worry if Beast Rider will suck, Golden Axe always suckedâ€.”
I think Beast Rider will be pretty good. You guys on the other hand say it sucks without even playing it.
crackdude
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pm.
Pretty good? have you seen the trailers?
City Hunter
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pm.
Guys, lay off Graham. He is accurate with his opinion and while co-op would’ve been nice in BR, it is not necessary. Also, each Golden Axe at II and onward have been pretty bad. You (especially Kogen) are looking back at the series with rose-tinted glasses, as it is not THAT special overall. GA1 and RoDA were good, though.
Buzz
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pm.
What the hell are you talking about? I played a single Golden Axe game when I was young.
Clueless idiots should not talk about things as if they know anything about them.
Kogen
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 4:20 pm.
“anything” should be “nothing”
Kogen
Posted September 5th, 2008 at 4:20 pm.
Kogen its better if you actually point out these errors you speak of.
I own all but two of the games listed - and I’ve played all but one (Never had a chance to play Revenge).
The comments said about them are not actually my personal opinion but rather the general opinions given on the games by the press and gamers alike. (Yeah not everybody can agree - some people like GA 2 over the others - but if you actually read up about it, GA2 was not that well received when it was launched).
Graham
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 3:29 am.
Sonic 2 received less scores than Sonic 1 at the time of its release, but it’s the best in the series with Sonic 3 & Knuckles…
I played Revenge of Death Adder, is very good game, for me at the same level of GA1 and GA2.
City Hunter
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 5:07 am.
@City Hunter
Well that’s your personal opinion isn’t it?
I know some people who don’t like Sonic & Knuckles (on it’s own or with Sonic 3).
I also know some people who prefer Sonic 1 to Sonic 2.
I think Graham has said it enough times, that the main point of the article is that Golden Axe: Beast Rider deserves a chance.
So many people have been complaining that it’s not 2 player co-op etc… Yet if you look back not all the Golden Axe games were 2 player co-op.
Too many people are getting fixated one what they thought were the best Golden Axe titles, but that is not the topic of debate in this article.
Also Sonic 2 may not have necessarily scored higher, but on the whole it was well received.
I remember reviews on Golden Axe 2 completely trashing the game (with valid points) it was not a good game.
Difference between a game “not being well received” and scoring slightly less than a predecessor (Sonic 2 was still highly regarded as a good game).
Oh and Kogen - “anything” should be “anything”
RohanBlack
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 5:49 am.
For Sonic 2, it isn’t just my opinion, but the thought of the majority of sega and sonic fans (not Sonic X fanboys…) that I know, and I agree with that.
Sonic 2 was superior in all way to Sonic 1.
Then you can prefer one or another, but that’s a matter of tastes.
Golden Axe 2, I don’t rembember all that reviews traching it, and IMHO it was way better than Golden Axe 1, from gameplay, to graphics, from levels to soundtrack…
Only a Sega hater could say that it is a bad game, same for Sonic & knuckles.
“the main point of the article is that Golden Axe: Beast Rider deserves a chance.
So many people have been complaining that it’s not 2 player co-op etc… Yet if you look back not all the Golden Axe games were 2 player co-op.
”
I undestand that, but Beast Rider will not have more chance with this “revisionism” to say that Goldan Axe series wasn’t taht great (so we can’t expect much from Beat rider), becasue it in’t true, Goldex Axe rocker at times.
And to clarify even this, I don’t care about 2 coop mode, Beast Rider have a different setting.
I only care if BR will turn out to be a good game at least, oterwise, don’t try to change the reality, it Beast Rider will suck it will because of Secret Level, not because of the brand…
City Hunter
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 8:27 am.
@ City Hunter.
“Only a Sega hater could say that it is a bad game, same for Sonic & knuckles.”
That is a pretty bold statement.
I certainly wouldn’t call myself a Sega hater (what with writing on a Sega site, and Sega being my favourite games company) - But I really didn’t like Golden Axe 2 at all.
And Sonic & Knuckles is not my favourite Sonic game either.
That is completely personal opinion. Doesn’t make me a Sega hater.
Also:
You appear to have mis-interpreted the article somewhat.
In no way am I implying that Beast Rider will suck, because the rest of the series isn’t that amazing.
It’s more the other way around.
I think Beast Rider looks like a cracking title - and should be given a fair chance - which a lot of people are not giving it.
And also I’m not saying the rest of the series sucks either (which people seem to still think).
At no point do I give my personal opinion stating that any of the games actually suck.
Some of the games received a poor reception upon release - that’s fact, something we all have to deal with.
Graham
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 9:01 am.
“I think Beast Rider looks like a cracking title - and should be given a fair chance - which a lot of people are not giving it.”
yes
crackdude
Posted September 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm.
Wait wait, I never said that someone that dislike a Sega game is a Sega hater.
Liking a game or not is a matter of tastes and that’s ok.
I was referring to people who sayd that these games are bad, but nevermind.
Back to discussion, I agree by giving Beast Rider a chance, and it will be what I will do, because I hope it will turn out to be at least a good game (even if I know the chances are very low).
But the article sounds also like “before trashing Beast Rider, remember that Golden Axe series, besides the first chapter, wasn’t all that great”
And sorry, but this isn’t true, Golden Axe 1,2 and RODA were great, GA3 even below them, was still a good game, idem for GA The Duel (at least it was way better than similar spin off like Final Fight Revenge).
Even GA warrior and Ax Battler were nice games to enjoy.
I don’t see how the series suck.
It’s true that most games received poor reception upon release, but if it was for magazines, I would have to trash something like 80% of sega games, shenmue included…
City Hunter
Posted September 7th, 2008 at 4:25 am.
I agree with the article except the mindless hack and slash comment. GA1 was not a mindless hack and slash. At that time it felt like an RPG a proper adventure without the tedious bits of an RPG. The world was quite realised with good character designs, great music and effects. The gameplay had a lot of depth to it unlike a lot of the hack and slash games that was around with the moves you could perform. Half of that is in the other games but they all lack that extra something that made the first one so good. I don’t expect this game to be great concidering Secret level’s record but i’d hope they could pull a decent title out of it. God knows the series needs one.
ROJM
Posted September 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am.